, george h.w. bush, you know, at one of the presidential debates started looking at his watch and it looked like he was ready to move on. let's get out of here, already. that hurt him, i think, in his re-election bid against bill clinton back in 1992. it is part of the game. it is what goes on. but i think these debates are going to be really, really important for that, 6%, 7%, 8% who are legitimately undecided or switchable, haven't completely made up their minds. they're going to be watching the three presidential debates, the one vice presidential debate in october. and they'll make up their minds. i think all the people who are voting now early, they basically have already made up their minds obviously. that's why they're voting early and they're not going to necessarily -- they don't think they'll be influenced by the debates. maybe some of them will be. but it will be too late for them because they already will have voted. >> well, let's talk about some of the polls and whether they're indica